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02 July 2014 @ 08:53 am
American Gods  
Should have no time to read should have not time to post. My thesis is sucking every last little bit of joy out of my life. But hey, tv...

I heard that American Gods is being produced as a tv show on Starz. I would be thrilled, I love the book...except...Starz. I mean they botched every single thing they got their hands on in the last few years. Torchwood, King Arthur, Pirates,...no matter what they cast plastic people for every role and use so much diffuser scrim that it becomes impossible to watch. Meh. i really hope they do a better job this time around.
Butterflysnogged on July 2nd, 2014 11:56 am (UTC)
An American Gods TV show would be pretty awesome.
Crossing fingers and toes that it goes well.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 2nd, 2014 05:33 pm (UTC)
Me too! I love Neil Gaiman and American Gods is brilliant material. It's just Starz and all the shit they produced I am worried about.
Shapinglightshapinglight on July 2nd, 2014 07:25 pm (UTC)
I think I read somewhere that it's not going to happen after all, so maybe you don't need to worry too much.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 2nd, 2014 07:42 pm (UTC)
Hm, Neil Gaiman keeps on posting about it so I figured it's going to happen. Anyway I want an American Gods shoe, I just hope they make it good.
Shapinglightshapinglight on July 2nd, 2014 07:45 pm (UTC)
Oh well, maybe I heard wrong, then.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 2nd, 2014 09:29 pm (UTC)
It seems, it was initially planned to run on HBO and they dropped it. Starz is now actually going through with it I think.

If they just leave the diffuser and their horrible casting/design at home, it could be really cool.
Molly May: Chuck/Books - valley_ofdreamsmolly_may on July 2nd, 2014 07:33 pm (UTC)
I agree about Starz, but the one thing that does have me optimistic about this project is that Bryan Fuller is producing it and writing the pilot, and he's generally pretty great with casting, and his shows (particularly Hannibal and Pushing Daisies) are almost always gorgeous/interesting to look at. I'm hopeful that this is such a good pairing of material and producer that even Starz can't mess it up.;)
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 2nd, 2014 07:43 pm (UTC)
I didn't know about Brian Fuller! That sounds brilliant, Gaiman/Fuller is basically a combination made in heaven. God, can Starz please just let them make it and not mess with it and keep away their stupid diffuser?
Lexi: AD - Hop onseilowyn on July 3rd, 2014 02:07 am (UTC)
I was also going to say BUT BRYAN FULLER!! And Starz may be moving up in the world because Outlander is highly anticipated, so it's got a fighting chance.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 3rd, 2014 07:20 am (UTC)
Yes, Bryan Fuller is a big Pro! I'm really keeping my thumbs pressed for it.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 3rd, 2014 01:07 am (UTC)
I'm waiting to see what they do with Outlander...the series by Ron Moore, before I try it or bother trying to get Starz.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 3rd, 2014 07:21 am (UTC)
Does Outlander have something to do with the fanfic kerfluffle a few years ago? Or is it independent from the books?
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 3rd, 2014 09:41 pm (UTC)
Outlander is the first in a series of time traveling historical romances by Diana Gabaldon. Basically, the plot is a WWII army nurse traveling in Scotland with her husband, one day stumbles across a standing stone and finds herself whisked through a time portal to the 18th Century Scotalnd.

I attempted to read the first book and got bogged down in the middle of it and barely was able to finish. I went to a book store and scanned the sequels discovering, nope doesn't get better. And gave up. Of course my problem with it was two-fold: 1) not a fan of time travel books - they tend to annoy me, 2) I found the husband who was a MI6 spy during WWII and an Oxford Professor more interesting than the warrior Scottish Highlander, Jamie Frazer. Jamie is the main romantic interest and also at one point beats the heroine for running away from him. His character grated on my nerves - dislike of the romantic hero does not bode well for historical romances. Claire, the heroine, also came across as a bit of a wet noodle - which also didn't help. 3) And, Gabaldon in my opinion overwrites - she's a bit like GRRM and Stephen King, so your mileage may vary in that respect.

The fanfic kerfuffle that you are referring to - is D. Gabaldon much like various other authors does not like fanfic being written about her books or using her characters. She has a 0 tolerance rule for fanfic. And not surprisingly got blasted by fanfic writers - for stating that.
Actually Ursula Le Quinn has the same rule.

But I remain curious about the tv series - depends on the casting and how they write it, I suspect.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 4th, 2014 08:18 am (UTC)
Oh, yeah, that was the one. Funny enough she basically regarded her
series as some sort of Doctor Who fanfiction.

A friend of mine read one of the books when she had broken her leg and
nothing else was around and she gave me a really funny account of them.
She said she always wrote that the hero's pubic hair had the colour of
cinnamon flowers. She probably meant the dried red ones, but fresh
cinnamon flowers are very white/greyish and that made for a very odd
picture in the head of my friend.

Doesn't sound like my cup of tea, book or show. I guess I will pass. And
this sounds like something that Starz will shoot in full on soft porn
mode (which means, that probably no one will have pubic hair, so at least
that problem is dealt with). Ugh.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 4th, 2014 12:26 pm (UTC)
No, you really would not like it.

It's a romance novel, with lots of sex, a controlling/alpha male hero who knows best. And a husband who is distant, and not as hunky.
A lot of people who dislike romance novels - loved it for the historical details and the time travel aspect.

LOL! - on the cinnamon flowers. I've never seen one. I'm wondering if the writer has only seen dried ones and assumed that the reader would view it the same way?

Although I am curious what Ron Moore (BSG) and Starz will do with it.
Probably be a lot like Spartacus - except in the 1700s. But I'm not curious enough to subscribe to STARZ. I might rent it some day, if it gets rave reviews.
flake_sakeflake_sake on July 4th, 2014 12:43 pm (UTC)
Ron Moore does sound interesting, but STARZ is really a weird network.

I was really interested in several of their shows, but they botched up the ....well not really the casting, more the design and make up so badly that it was hardly watchable.

Their King Arthur looked like some Australien beachboy, who was stumbling through the middleages (where a ton of naked hairles photoshopped women were only waiting for him).


And the writing was insanely bad.

With Black sails the writing was a bit better, but all the playboy bunnies on the pirate island of perfect teeth, were still so annoying, that it was impossible to watch.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 4th, 2014 12:48 pm (UTC)
I've been noticing that trend - women who jumped off the cover of modeling magazines and sloppy guys or guys who jumped off the cover of modeling magazines with women who did.

Makes for boring television.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 4th, 2014 12:37 pm (UTC)
Oh, yeah, that was the one. Funny enough she basically regarded her
series as some sort of Doctor Who fanfiction.

Really? Than why the negativity towards fanfic? Sounds sort of hypocritical?

flake_sakeflake_sake on July 4th, 2014 12:49 pm (UTC)
That's what I thought too. Most of what she wrote was insanely over the top. She basically compared writing fanfic to molesting her children.

I know several authors who don't want people to write fanfic on their work, but they don't react so over top.

Apparently the hero was modeled after one of the older Doctors.

That's fine by me, I think all art has derivatives elements in it, but I also think, that's why she should not have flown at fandom like that.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 4th, 2014 06:06 pm (UTC)
I vaguely remember it. Her reaction seemed sort of silly and a bit hypocritical. Honestly, if you've written fanfic, you shouldn't be blasting other people for doing it. You look like a flaming hypocrite.

Notice a lot of former fanfic/current romance/sci-fi writers doing this. Literary writers don't bother. It's just the genre writers who go nuts.
(Of course no one writes fanfic on literary novels.)

flake_sakeflake_sake on July 4th, 2014 06:12 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I think her and also Anne Rice made themselves look really wonky in those discussions.

Other writers, who uttered the same sentiment, like GRRM voiced it way more reasonable.
shadowkat67shadowkat67 on July 5th, 2014 03:37 am (UTC)
I liked how Illona Andrews (Magic series - urban fantasy) stated it :

"I don't care if you write fanfic about my books, characters, etc. But if you publish it - I'll come after you with my lawyers guns blazing. And please don't send it to me and ask me to read it.I can't. Nor can I find you a publisher to publish it. And don't tell me about it. I don't want to know. Thank you."